Today in Ohio, the daily news podcast of cleveland.com and The Plain Dealer.
CLEVELAND, Ohio — Ohio will have 10 Republican Congressional districts and five Democratic in this year’s mid-term election.
That’s because the Ohio Supreme Court has largely closed the door on Democrats’ attempts to block Republicans’ latest congressional redistricting map from taking effect in 2022. We’re talking about what it means on Today in Ohio.
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Here are the questions we’re answering today:
Is the battle over Congressional redistricting in Ohio dead for the 2022 election?
What are Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine’s themes in the first TV ad of his re-election campaign?
With the CDC opening the door for a bunch of people to get a second coronavirus booster shot, should we get them now or wait for the next surge?
Will the Cleveland Clinic London, which opened Tuesday, attract enough high-paying patients to justify the $1 billion investment?
How much do healthcare jobs dominate the economy in Cuyahoga County?
Which Ohio universities landed in the top 50 rankings for best graduate programs in the latest U.S. News report?
How high has the number of juveniles charged with murder in Cleveland and its suburbs spiked? How old was the youngest charged this year?
What warning does Susan Glaser have for vacationers this summer if their plans include a car rental?
The judge who forced into public view the names of the FirstEnergy officials who approved all the bribery has been immersed in his own legal fight for a few years, one that he just won. What was it about?
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Chris: [00:00:00] Armond Budish and the Cuyahoga county council want to create slush funds, even though they adamantly say they’re not slush funds, $86 million of American rescue plan money. They want to flush down the toilet, but we’re not going to talk about that today on today in Ohio because of Layla Tassie. Isn’t he.
Well, wait until she comes back because she’s our expert on it. It is today in Ohio, the news podcast discussion from cleveland.com and the plain dealer. I’m Chris Quinn here with Lisa Garvin and Laura Johnston. No, Seth today we’re missing our political analyst and we will carry on in this small group.
It was snowing this morning, Lisa.
Lisa: It was, and there was black ice on my patio when I went out to get the papers. So,
Leila: but Hey, it was going to be in the sixties by the end of today.
Chris: I know you can almost put a camera on the thermometer and see it moving in real time to go from 32 to 67. Let’s hope it happens earlier than later.
Let’s begin is the battle over congressional [00:01:00] redistricting in Ohio dead for the 2022 election. Laura, this is.
Leila: It is sad. I don’t know that it’s completely dead. You know, they haven’t called it yet, but Republicans seemed to have won this battle because the primary ballots are already being prepped with the latest Ohio redistricting commission map, which favors Republicans to win 10 of Ohio’s 15 congressional districts.
And that was the second attempt. And because obviously the Ohio Supreme court struck down the first one, but these will be on the ballot for the may primary because the fight against them is basically falling apart and. Chief justice Moreno Connor gave the parties 25 days to present their written arguments and any supporting evidence.
She did that yesterday. Plus there’s a bunch of other days to file briefs replies, et cetera. So you, this could be two months. I mean, we could be, well, the election could be over and they could still be arguing about this.
Chris: Yeah, I get the feeling that, that everybody’s a little bit worried with the congressional redistricting, which has [00:02:00] different rules than.
Legislative that there’s a, that the federal court, if it takes, it could lead to an ugly Supreme court precedent and only state legislatures can draw lines and the people be damned. It doesn’t matter if you have a constitutional amendment that says otherwise. And so you see people putting the brakes on the courts, putting the breaks on the people, suing or putting the brakes on to stretch that one out.
And so we will be stuck. Once again with unfair congressional districts in.
Leila: Yeah. I mean, I guess it’s slightly better than what we’ve had, which was, you know, we’ve had 16 seats and 12 of them have been Republican solidly. So now we’re looking at 10 out of 15, but, um, that’s not much better.
Chris: No, it is not.
Okay. Well that’s over, but the legislative continues and we’re waiting to see what happens with the Supreme court. In that one. We talked about that yesterday. What’s
Leila: [00:03:00] funny. Is that still. Agreement and the Supreme court here because the 25 days came from Marino Connor where the Republican justices still said, that’s too fast.
And they wanted to lay out three months. I’m like, are we going to push this to the 20, 24 election? It’s like, how slow do they want to walk this?
Chris: Well, they want to slow walk it until Moreno causes John Sharon Kennedy you’ll win a big presumption, but that’s the, that’s the danger you’re listening to today in Ohio.
What our governor Mike DeWine themes in his first TV ad of his reelection campaign. Lisa, I think it’s interesting. He declined to debate the opposing candidates, but on the day of that debate, he put out his first ad.
Lisa: Yes. It’s part of a package of cable TV ads that started running yesterday and we’ll run all week.
He spent about $131,000 on this ad buy it’s a 32nd ad and it’s. His tough fight said he faced and it was [00:04:00] filled with GOP buzzwords, like big city unions, which is when he talked about the Cleveland teachers union, trying to delay reopening of schools because of COVID. He also called it on China, unfair trade.
Dixon, you know, when he mentioned that Ohio was number three in us manufacturing, and then you talked about radicals who want to defund the police when he was talking about, you know, spending more money on public safety. So yeah, it’s, it’s all there. And it’s kind of, I don’t know, I’ve never heard Dwayne use buzzwords like this and ads before, so it’s a little bit jarring to me.
Chris: Well, it’s also a little bit blinking that he does feel vulnerable to the Republicans that are coming at him from the right, saying he’s not trumping enough. And so his whole demeanor has been to try and seem as in the pocket of the fringe of the Republican party as possible. And nothing demonstrates that more than his complete lack of leadership in this [00:05:00] redistricting battle.
He could. Stopped what happened this week? He could’ve stopped Matt Hoffman from pulling out of the Supreme court ordered process and said, no, no, no, no, no. We’re going to finish the process we promised to start. He didn’t instead he voted with Hoffman. And so I would expect that once we get through the primary.
The Democrats will be publishing ads. That seriously question his leadership skills, because he is since about two years ago, when these attacks from the right started, he’s really showed a pretty serious lack of leadership.
Lisa: And yeah, and, and, and of course, a lot of Republican candidates are take, gonna take, uh, Credit for this COVID relief money, which was passed by Democrats and at the federal level.
And in the ad, Dwayne says, oh, we have $250 million on first responder and law enforcement grants, which, you know, no, of course he’s not in the Congress, but none of the GOP congressmen in Ohio voted for. [00:06:00]
Chris: The attack on the Cleveland school system is interesting because we talk often here about the urban, rural divide in Ohio that the, the rural elected legislators hold sway over the cities and the city.
Full representation. It seems like Mike DeWine is saying, I don’t care about votes in Cleveland. I’m going to use Cleveland as, as an emblem of what’s wrong with Ohio and how I beat it up to, to show that I’m strong to get the rural votes. He’s actually contributing to the polarization of this.
Lisa: Oh, that’s an interesting outlook on it.
We’ll have to see what future ads do. But yeah, that one about the Cleveland schools kind of really kind of hit me in the solar plexus there. I was like, really
Chris: come on. Well, and what people forget, the COVID was new. We didn’t know what the effect would be. And Eric Gordon closed the schools cause he knew a lot of these kids come from single parent families.
And if they were coming into the school every day and then they take COVID home and it makes their single [00:07:00] parent deathly ill. The kids wouldn’t have anybody to provide for them. I mean, he, he had a very difficult choice to make, and it’s interesting that the governor is slapping him when he was looking out for the best interest of people.
You can disagree with what he did, but I don’t think you can question the motive of why he did it. So using that as a red flag in your ad is a little bit cheesy or a lot cheesy. All right. You’re listening to today in Ohio. With the CDC opening the door for a whole bunch of people to get a second Corona virus, boosters shot.
Should we get them now or wait for the next surge? And Laura, I guess I shouldn’t ask him the first person because I already got mine.
Leila: I know. I was going to say, what do you think Chris Quinn, should you go get a shot? I am not quite eligible yet. I cannot wait till I am eligible, but. Um, the U S food and drug administration on Tuesday authorized this second booster, either the Pfizer or the Moderna have vaccines for anyone [00:08:00] 50 and up and first certain younger immunocompromised individuals.
And then later, later yesterday, the CDC expanded the eligibility. So then there’s the question of who should actually go out and get this shot. And a lot of doctors basically say, you need to talk it over with your doctor, Julie Washington. Did this story. And she talked to Keith Armitage, an infectious disease doctor at UAH, and he said he would recommend it for anyone over 65.
If it’s been more than six months since their first one. And the same for anyone, 50 to 65, anyone with chronic medical condition. And the only reason he would say, hold off is if you got really sick with any of your first three shots, then you could, you know, way back.
Chris: Okay, well, , the government had already said people who are immunocompromised over a certain age, I forget what it was, should also get the shot.
That’s been out there for a while. So when the CDC came out yesterday at whatever, it was 3 30, 3 25 and said, okay, this is what we think people should do. [00:09:00] I use the immunocompromise exception and immediately set up an appointment and got it because I am missing a key. Element of the immune system. So what, what do you th what do people think should, should people go get the shot or should they wait for the surge?
Leila: Uh, I, I don’t want to wait for a surge because a lot of times we don’t know it surging until you’re already in the middle of it. And then, you know, you still have a lag time of how long those boosters take to, to ramp up. So as soon as I’m eligible, I’m ready to go. It’s. My booster in November. So I guess that would put me in may.
Chris: Yeah, I got it. In October. There was an Israel study that has not been peer reviewed that found that people with the fourth shot had a 70% less chance of dying. The problem with the study is it only involves volunteers and the volunteers, people think might be more health conscious to begin with. And that could skew that number.
There was another [00:10:00] study that people were talking about yesterday that shows. People who got the coronavirus after the third shot and after the fourth shot had almost identical symptoms. And so there were people arguing that the fourth shot really doesn’t do anything to help you. It does. There’s no doubt that it boosts the antibodies.
I mean, a week after you get it, your antibodies are back up high. But if you’re not being exposed to the Corona virus, how much is that necessary? Again, for me, it was a no-brainer. I got the shot immediately.
Leila: And you go, well, we’re getting into the warm season here. Right? We’re even the last two years, it hasn’t been so bad and people have relaxed a little bit.
So maybe people want to see. I don’t think I’m going to be outside all summer. My kids aren’t going to school. I maybe, I don’t know. It depends on your situation. If you’re going back to the workplace and you’re going to be an air conditioning sitting at a desk next to somebody else, maybe you’re like, yep.
It’s time to get my.
Chris: Well, when people are returning to the workplace now in hybrid situations, and that I think [00:11:00] plays a role in it too. Lisa, what do you think
Lisa: I am 64. Um, I’m going to make an appointment to get my booster. I I’m with Laura. I don’t think you should wait until the surge is here and cases are going up before getting it.
And I urge anybody, you know, especially somebody who’s over 75. I mean, the, everyone that over that age should get a booster.
Chris: Nobody was talking about this yesterday, but we have seen reports of it in the past month. The companies are supposed to reformulate the vaccine eventually to incorporate. The most current forms of the virus, which I would think when that happens, we would all line up once again to get the shot.
We’re still getting the original Corona virus shot. And there was always the talk that this would be like the flu shot, where they’re incorporating the. The latest mutations in it. So we’ll have to see, I sent out a question on subtext this morning to the thousand plus people that, that get our text messages each day about [00:12:00] stuff we’re working on, asking for their thoughts.
So it’ll be interesting to see what they say. If we get enough response, we’ll put together a story on where people have landed. You’re listening to today. Well, the Cleveland clinic, London, which opened Tuesday, attract enough high paying patients to justify the $1 billion investment. Lisa, we talked last week about the opening was coming.
It had been long delayed for a variety of reasons, but Julie Washington took a different tack. Is it worth the investment
Lisa: and this remains to be seen. I mean, there are some profitability issues that are certainly concerning this $1 billion 184 bed facility opened yesterday in central London. It’s a private hospital.
And this opens at a time when international travel is still down effected by COVID, there’s increased us competition from us. Healthcare centers and then private run hospital revenue, which is the hospital is Cleveland clinic. London is private. Private [00:13:00] hospital revenue is falling. Um, and some have pointed out that you’re adding 14% to the private bed count when demand is lagging.
So this could lead to a glut of private hospital beds, but Cleveland clinic CEO, Dr. Thomas . He anticipates patients from all over the world. They’re expecting most likely they will come from the UK and. Or Europe. And he says that the decline in international patients is temporary. So of course he’s putting a big face on it.
And interestingly enough, we’ve been saying the price is $1 billion, but it actually might be a little more than.
Chris: Well, it also comes back to, they are the best heart hospital out there. And if you are having heart problems and you can afford it, wouldn’t you want to go to the best. And I think that’s what they’re planning to draw.
Well, you know, we know that from a bunch of Arab nations, people have come here regularly to Cleveland for heart issues. Maybe it’ll be easier for them to go to the London [00:14:00] hospital and maybe that’ll attract more. The Cleveland clinic doesn’t make a lot of mistakes in its expansions. And. That they’ve made a mistake here.
Lisa: Yeah. Uh, Ohio state university, professor of economic development, Ned hill in his mind, he thinks for Cleveland clinic London to succeed, it would have to lure very wealthy patients from the middle east and Europe. And there was an interesting, kind of a backstory here. The UK health system has a backlog through.
2023. That’s the national health system, which most people are on, but they can’t go to other countries for treatment if they’re being treated in the NHS arena. But the experts say that this may convince rich self-pay patients to seek care at Cleveland clinic London because of the backlog and other houses.
Chris: Yeah, that’s clearly what they’re counting on as well, healed people that can afford their, their level of care, who can’t wait for the national system. It’ll be interesting to [00:15:00] revisit this in a year or so to see how they did it’s today in Ohio. Speaking about healthcare in Cleveland, how much to healthcare jobs dominate the economy in Cuyahoga county.
Laura, this was interesting that we all know it’s the number one health sector, but wow. By.
music: I had
Leila: no idea. It was this big that the healthcare industry employees, more, more workers than double that of the next largest industry, which has manufacturing. And, uh, Zachary Smith looked at data from the bureau of labor statistics and found jobs ranked in 2020 by the average annual wage.
And there are some limits to this data, some of the highest paid. Professions are not on it like surgeons and other specialties, but they, they looked at the common jobs that typically pay about $70,000 a year and looked at the top 20 and not all of them even require a full college, four year degree and pay good money.
Chris: The these [00:16:00] rankings are pretty respected because there’s a rigor to them. This isn’t made up stuff,
Leila: right? Because it’s the bureau of labor statistics. So this is a federal, uh, ranking. It’s not just, you know, whatever fly by night, internet website decides to rank them. But you know, the number one on the list is dentists actually, which in Cleveland Elyria in our metropolitan area make $210,000 a year on average, which I probably wouldn’t have guessed.
They were higher paid than. I don’t know, general internal medicine physicians, which is at 1 95. I don’t
Chris: know. They’re not as high as the veterinarians.
music: The veterinarians
Leila: are number eight on the list at a hundred and eleven, eight eighty, but maybe this was done in 2020, probably before the pandemic. And before everybody got their puppy and sort of, you know, started trying to book, book,
music: vet appointed.
Chris: Okay, interesting story. Check it out on cleveland.com. It’s today in Ohio, which Ohio university has landed in the top 50 rankings for best graduate programs and the latest us news report. [00:17:00] Lisa us news really has captured this. Every year, they put out these ratings every year, colleges do everything possible to move ahead.
There’s even been some scandal involved with people trying to fake it, but what’s the, what’s the latest for Ohio colleges.
Lisa: So, uh, 50 graduate schools in Ohio in. Let me roll that back. Us news and world report and their top 50 grad schools in various disciplines. Um, Ohio was pretty well represented and actually following on our previous story about healthcare, you know, salaries and everything.
It’s interesting that the grad school programs at the schools that rated high were like nursing master biostatistics and, uh, uh, nursing. Medical research and so forth. Ohio state university had 22 categories included their nursing master’s program was number seven. That’s the highest Ohio school in any category in this report, they also ranked in [00:18:00] social work at number 11, biostats at 21 in computer science at number 34 case Western reserve seven graduate programs on the top 50 list.
Sounds familiar. Social work was number nine, nursing master again at number 11 and biostatistics at number 28 and Cleveland state and the university of Akron both landed on the grad school list for their part-time law programs, Cleveland state at 39 and university of Akron at 49 and university of Cincinnati.
Nursing doctorate was number 45. Again, nursing master was at number 49 and medical research at number 43 for the university of Cincinnati. So you can see that the grad school programs that are doing best are mostly in healthcare.
Chris: Laura. You’re, you’re not that far away from when you’re going to be thinking about college for your kids,
Leila: not grad school,
Chris: but these rankings, what do you think these rankings affect that decision making [00:19:00] process?
What, what is it. Is it just status for the
music: colleges to get these rankings? Or
Chris: is there a marketing function that does attract
Leila: students? Oh, I think absolutely. The marketing attracts students. Everyone wants to go to a good school. That’s respected. And especially if you’re going for a graduate program, like you’re looking to get a job after that.
And you want to make sure that you have. All you know, the accolades that you can get and be, if you want to be the tops in your field, then you’re going to go into the top rated schools. I mean like what good is an MBA. If you get it from a school? No one’s ever heard of, you know, I think these are prestigious and people look at the rankings.
Chris: As they’re making that decision. You don’t, you need, you, you need a ranking to know that Harvard law is.
Leila: No, I think Harvard’s probably pretty safe, but I think sometimes you get unexpected, um, schools on the list and you take another look at the program and these are specifically on programs, right? So they mean a little bit more than just the overall school.
Chris: Okay. It’s [00:20:00] today in Ohio. How high has the number of juveniles charged with murder in Cleveland and its suburbs spike. And how old was the youngest person charged this year? Our Adam freeze put together a couple of great stories in the past week. One listing all of the allegations in civil suits against Deshaun Watson.
And then this story looking at the way this trend is district. Yeah,
Leila: this is really distressing trend. Uh, there was a four year high in 2021 with 22 juveniles charged with murder. That was up from 13 in 2018. And so far this year, I mean, we are still in March and 11 juveniles have been charged with murder or aggravated murder.
And that includes a 12 year old boy. And that is just really there’s. There’s no one reason to point to it. Obviously, people look at the pandemic, the stress of the Corona virus, and then just the. Increasing availability of guns, even to juveniles and the gun violence that surging everywhere. So, I mean, that’s what the prosecutor [00:21:00] is pointing to.
In several recent cases, juveniles were targeted in part to steal guns and when everybody has a gun and there’s kind of some kind of conflict, then people pull out their own gun. Cause they don’t want to be the one shot first
Chris: and charging the twelve-year-old with.
Leila: This is a crazy case. So there’s a 12 year old boy accused of fatally shooting.
A 19 year old man in the stairwell of an apartment building us marshals found him in two other juveniles who are also charged with murder with six handguns, four 12 gauge shotguns, a 22 caliber rifle and a assault rifle, like what all in their
music: house. But what,
Chris: what is the point of charging a twelve-year-old with murder?
Are we really going to hold a 12 year old to. For poor decision-making in that,
Leila: I mean, this kid had already been on, like, I don’t remember. I think it was on probation from an earlier charge. So at some point, you know, we’ve had this discussion about the carjackings. Like I understand. [00:22:00] That the idea is to rehabilitate children because I mean, a 12 year old is one year older than my kid.
And like I said, yesterday on the podcast, it would not let them have a pellet gun. Right. But in these kids are young and their brains are not formed. And obviously they don’t have great role models in their life, but at some point. There is a public safety issue here. Right? And so, but you’re right. And, and all the experts say, look, raising punishments for juveniles, turning them over to adult court, putting them in jail.
This is not the way to treat this. You need to, you need to give kids something to do. You need to make sure they have activities and role models and mentors, and keep them engaged that you need to give them mental health professionals, because this is. But not the
Chris: cost, but if this is 12 year old, presumably was 11 when they committed their previous serious crime and is in the system.
Whose fault is it that the kid has escalated to a murder case? Is it, is it the kid’s [00:23:00] fault? Is it the Guardian’s fault? Is it the juvenile courts fault? Because once they get into the juvenile court system, the whole purpose of that system is to get the kid reoriented and clearly not happening.
Leila: Right.
Exactly. But you can’t put a parent in jail for a kid kid’s misbehavior. I mean, obviously there are a whole lot of issues.
Chris: It’s a disturbing story by Adam freeze. Check it out on Cleveland dot. What wording does our travel experts, Susan Glasser have for vacationers this summer, if their plans include a car rental, Lisa,
Lisa: this story was in the Sunday paper, along with the Susan’s take on her visit to Phoenix, Arizona.
So this grew out of her own experience. When she was in Phoenix at the airport, she waited in a thrifty car rental line for over an hour. There were. A hundred people in line two hours. She was actually in line. And while she was standing in line, she [00:24:00] got on her phone and tried to rent another car, hoping, you know, she could find something, you know, a car.
And she said that most of them were either sold out or way too expensive. So when she got to the front of the line, she did get a car. And quite honestly, I’m surprised she did if she wasn’t aligned that long. But she is saying because of her experience, y’all need to get your car rentals early. That’s her big.
You know, advice reserve early, at least one month before you plan to travel. She also says that if you join loyalty and reward programs that could help, she specifically mentioned Hertz gold, Avis preferred and nationals, Emerald club. They are all free to sign up. She herself did sign up for them. Um, and she was.
Certain car rental companies seem to handle inventory better because with rental cars, you have no shows. You, you know, they’re hard to predict. So you really don’t know what your inventory is on any particular day, but she says that enterprise national and Alamo seem to handle their inventory just a little bit better.
She [00:25:00] says, if you have reservations and you don’t get a rental car, you can rent from a competitor and charge the difference to the original company that you, uh, contracted with because a rental agreement is a binding.
Chris: Huh? I was not aware of that. Laura you’ve traveled recently and reserve rental cars.
You didn’t quite have quite the same
Leila: experience. I didn’t have a bad experience. Uh, recently when I went, I rented a car in Seattle for like eight days and we had a Ford edge, I believe, and it was about $650. I, when we first got there, they were like, well, we don’t have your car ready. And there was like very small line.
Cause I was expecting really long line and they’re like, we can give you, um, like a Ford expedition. I was like, no, I am not trying to think of for an expedition or a minivan. We waited a half hour. We got the car, it wasn’t too bad. And then I just made a reservation for August, but I got to say rich Exner who for a while.
Business column like a personal business column for us, gave me the best tip to go to auto [00:26:00] slash.com and basically put in what you want and you get bids and you’re like, okay, I can afford that. And what’s crazy to me is that rental car agreements don’t require credit cards. So you could literally cancel them the same day and you’re not out any money.
I don’t know that that’s the best way for anybody to be doing this.
Chris: Okay. You’re listening to today in Ohio, the judge who forced into public view the names of first energy officials who approved all of that bribery has been immersed in his own legal fight for a few years. One
music: that he just won. Laura, what was that
Leila: about?
So this is J U S district judge John Adams, and he had. Uh, basically accused of misconduct by refusing to take this mental health evaluation. And, um, this is fight has been going on for a long time, all the way back to 2013 and Adams had been on the bench for a decade by then, but he demanded to know why a magistrate judge should not have been held in contempt for missing a deadline and a social security case.
And four federal judges filed a complaint against Adams. They claimed [00:27:00] that he was. It was extreme unwarranted and unjustified abuse of judicial discretion. So this went back and forth for years with demands and Adam’s refusing, and they wanted him to submit to a psychological evaluation. He initially provided a report by a local psychiatrist.
It found he didn’t suffer from any diagnosable. Disorder, but that committee persisted finally in 2016, he was ordered to undergo go the evaluation in 2017. He sued the judicial council because he didn’t do it. And then the panel dismissed the issue two years later. But finally it took till this year to basically dismiss the case altogether.
Chris: Well, I’m glad for him because he was our hero. He forced into public view information that the federal prosecutor has yet to release that anybody’s yet to release about who the people were at first energy that signed off on to $60 million in bribes to corrupt the state house. He would not be [00:28:00] denied.
He was adamant about it in his court and they finally complied. And we know at CEO, Chuck Jones and another guy. Way to go. And I’m glad his legal problems ended as a result, as a result of his fight there, that seems like an odd thing to seek, to force somebody in a judicial role to get mental health review.
It doesn’t happen very often.
Leila: And then for this literally to last nine years and took another two years for them to drop calling him, miss, you know, committing misconduct. Like I don’t understand why it took so long.
Chris: Yeah. Yeah. It’s uh, it’s I mean, good for him that he won, but I’m sure he’s pretty annoyed by the whole thing.
It’s today in Ohio and that’s it for Wednesday. Like I said, at the top, come back tomorrow, we’ll be talking about those county slush funds. It’s amazing how willing our elected leaders are to squander big amounts of money. And it raises questions and new about whether we really made a mistake in creating this form of government.
Layla will be here. Laura, be here. Lisa will be here. And hopefully you’ll all be [00:29:00] here. Thanks for listening.
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