Today in Ohio, the daily news podcast of cleveland.com and The Plain Dealer.
CLEVELAND, Ohio — A coalition of voting-rights groups fighting gerrymandered Republican congressional districts has backed down from an Ohio Supreme Court case because of the tight election timeline.
The groups, including the League of Women Voters and the ACLU, cited the time litigation has taken, including what it said was intentional foot-dragging by state Republicans. So what does this mean for the quest for fair maps? We’re talking about it on Today in Ohio.
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Here are the questions we’re answering today:
As the Cleveland Browns prepare to introduce new quarterback Deshaun Watson to Cleveland, what’s happening in Texas this week that could derail his prospects for playing?
Have the ACLU and the League of Women Voters surrendered in the battle to get fair Congressional Districts this year? How is that going over with people who want the fight to continue?
The I Promise school in Akron has the well-known support of LeBron James, but now it’s getting support from a legendary rapper, based on him hitting it big with roulette. Who is it, and how is he supporting the school?
With the Omicron B variant spreading in the United States rapidly, has the federal and Ohio government run out of money for coronavirus testing?
How is Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio raising the alarm about the spread of cryptocurrency and ransomware?
How much additional support is Cleveland giving to the program that supplies free lawyers to people facing eviction?
Do experts believe the hot housing market will cool off in the coming months, or will prices keep rising?
What killed 15 Canada geese around Lower Lake in Shaker Heights, and should we be worried?
What were the questions people had to answer in the 1950 Census, for which all records are being released on April 1. Every 10 years, we get a batch of data, which genealogists treasure. What will we learn this time?
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Chris: [00:00:00] It seems like a sad state of affairs winning a national group is the only one left trying to right the ship on our congressional districts. The state organizations have stopped for this year. It’s a story we’ll be talking about today in Ohio. The news podcast discussion from cleveland.com and the plain dealer.
I’m Chris Quinn here with Lisa Garvin, Laurie Johnston, and Layla Tassie on a Friday for a wrap-up of the week’s news. Good morning.
Lisa: Good morning. Good morning. Happy Friday. Ready for snow tomorrow, right? Ah,
Chris: boom. Laura’s going to go skiing. Oh, the
Laura: steel is closed. Done. She’ll make
Leila: one of the vacuum. Pile up some,
Chris: all the lumber that’s been all to her. Let’s begin with the Cleveland Browns. Today is the day Deshaun. Watson will finally face reporters in town, followed by the owners of the team, Jimmy and Dee Haslam, who we have not [00:01:00] heard from directly. Just through statements. Lisa, you spent some time looking. To see what does Sean Watson is actually accused of in the 22 civil suits that massage therapists have filed against him being delicate?
What basically is he accused of here?
Lisa: And it was pretty much the same emo and. 22 incidents. He would call a massage therapist to his home or apartment or wherever he was at the
Chris: time. So he would expose himself and then position his body in such a way where he might have physical contact with the therapist.
And that is not allowed. You’re not supposed to expose yourself. You’re not supposed to position your body in such a way as you have contact. I I’m a little bit surprised if this is what the details of. That the grand jury heard from all of these women and decided it wasn’t a crime because there are crimes that cover this it’s importuning and, and some other things I am not allowed [00:02:00] by law to expose myself to people and seek to have physical contact with them without their consent.
Right. Layla, you covered courts. This is
Leila: strictly, I mean, I I’m I’m stunned that. I mean, what was the news yesterday regarding that second grand? That they, that they, they didn’t decline,
Lisa: but it was not a new case. It was one of the original nine cases. So it was not a new case. It was just seen in the wrong county.
Leila: Okay. I mean, still, I, I just I’m shocked that dozens of cases have come before grand juries and, and they all represent the same pattern and none of them have stuck. I just.
Chris: Is a cry. I mean, th they’re describing the elements of a crime. So, I mean, we all know prosecutors, if they don’t want to get an indictment for a grand jury, they can do things.
So they don’t. And if they want to get an indictment, even if they don’t deserve one, you know, the line in Cuyahoga county has always been the kid indict a ham sandwich, but
Lisa: to be clear, [00:03:00] there are 22 civil cases. There were only nine cases that were sent to the grant.
Chris: Okay. So we have not heard from Mr.
Watson here in town, and today he will meet with reporters alongside his coaches, which will be interesting because I, I can’t imagine that these questions are not going to be fired at him in rapid succession. And then two hours later, Dee and Jimmy Haslam were, will meet with reporters. And I guess they’re going to describe what they call their extensive research.
Into his past, which I can’t wait to hear what extensive research they’re talking about. Well, the crickets
Laura: now I got, they talked to all the women.
Chris: Yeah. I know that they talked to any of the women. Have they actually spoken with anybody who said. He’s done these bad things. Are they just talking to his defenders?
So we’ll see, it’ll be a big day for the Sean Watson [00:04:00] story. It’s been the hottest story of the week in Cleveland. You’re listening to today. Have the ACLU and the league of women, voters of Ohio surrendered in the battle to get fair congressional districts this year. How is that going over with the people who want the fight to continue?
Lisa, I’m pretty much astounded by this. This was a battle that was from the heart of Ohio that we’re trying to get things right finally. And it’s been back and forth, back and forth, pushing, pushing. And then they just walk away.
Lisa: The HCLU of Ohio, basically blinked, I think in this case, and they of course have clients, including the league of women voters.
So the ACLU of Ohio and their clients yesterday drop the effort to block the latest GOP drawn congressional map. They cited the Republican foot dragging strategy. They said that that was the strategy. All. For GOP lawmakers in the general assembly was to get endless [00:05:00] delays since the legislature controls election dates.
Anyway, and of course we’ve seen them dig in their feet over these last few weeks. And when the Ohio Supreme court ruled did it, it did not have jurisdiction. It gave the ACL you a difficult choice. They said they have to start at square one again with a new lawsuit or pursue relief after the 2022. And as you said, Chris, this did not go over well with democratic operatives, both in Ohio and elsewhere.
Chris: Well, you’re, you’re caving to all of the tactics that have been used to unfairly. Keep the district skewed. You’re you’re actually saying, okay. All of the sleazy tactics that the redistrict had commissioned Republicans have used all of the sleazy tactics that have gone on with the Republicans on the Supreme court.
So we will not have fair elections this year. We will not have fair congressional representation. You know, I I’m really the ACL you and the legal women voters surprise me here. You could [00:06:00] blame the legal women voters for us being in the position where. If you’ll recall back six, seven years ago, they had a ballot initiative that was going to completely change the way we draw these lines.
And when the legislature said, no, no, you know what? We’ll put a system together and we’ll put it on the ballot. They walked away. And the system we ended up with is not nearly as good as the one, the legal women voters had on the, in the works. So here we are with this mess that the legislature created. Uh, and they’re given up, I mean, it’s just, man, I, I, this is it.
This is the battle. If you win here, you change things for good right away.
Lisa: Right. And then midterms have, oh, go ahead. I was
Laura: just going to say, it’s not over, right? Like we still have one group. Correct. It’s still possible. But yeah, it is really disheartening for them to throw up their hands and say, well, the Republicans did some really shady stuff, so we’re just going to let them get away with it for the next two weeks.
Great. So what happens in the next two years,
Chris: we end [00:07:00] up with unfair representation in the midterms when you look. The other thing is, yeah, there’s another group. That’s fighting it, but they’re not Ohioans. It’s an outside group. So we basically are putting our hopes in outsiders to help solve Ohio’s problems because the ACU and the legal women voters in Ohio.
I’ve given up and it’s just a bad scene for them to walk away from this fight. And I don’t know, I we’re good. Do we need another voting rights group that actually will carry the battle to its end?
Lisa: I will say that Senator, our Senate president Matt Huffman’s. Public relations guy, John Fortney immediately jumped into the fray and said, quote, it’s always entertaining when liberal special interests start to panic and expose themselves for the hypocrites that they truly are.
And I can’t believe he said that with a straight.
Chris: Uh, well, I think a lot of people are really surprised by this. There they’re in there. They’re in the final [00:08:00] minute. They’re this is it. We’re right up against it. The Supreme court has welcomed this followup suit. It’s not like it’s going to take a year to deal with the Supreme court repeatedly.
You said the legislature can move the election. This is, this is a serious battle. I hope the national group gets it done, but I just. Uh, gas that the Ohio based groups that claim to represent all of our interests are given up and saying, you know what, we’ll take another couple of years of unfair representation in Ohio.
We’ll deny lots and lots of Ohioans, fair representation. And we’ll skew Congress in the, in the offing. Cause we just don’t feel like we should pursue it anymore. Um, mind boggling development. I just, I don’t know that Ohio should any longer put its faith in the ACO, you and the legal women voters to represent its interests when they dropped the ball like this.
And I just wonder if there’s somebody else that that should be getting the support, you know, when people donate to nonprofits that they want to donate [00:09:00] to people that tuck tail and go home, or they want to donate to people who are going to fight the right. I don’t know. We’ll see lots of developments to come in this redistricting battle.
It’s today in Ohio. The I promise school in Akron has the well-known support of LeBron James, but now it’s getting support from a legendary rapper based on him hitting it big with Willette. Who is it? And how is he supporting the school? Laura? This is down in your neck of the woods from where you grew up.
Laura: Yeah. And it’s a very cool school. I don’t know if anybody’s seen the documentary. Um, the first year, but this is a million dollar donation at Drake announced in a video on his Instagram page on Wednesday. And he explained that, yeah, he, he hit his biggest winnings ever playing roulette on steak, and he’s going to give it to the kids in Akron.
LeBron is in the video. He says, wow, I appreciate it. My kids are going to go crazy for that. And he hugged. And, uh, this will will be used, I’m sure for the Akron public school. So they, you get public funding. There’s all [00:10:00] sorts of extra programs like wraparound services for families and the kids. I’m sure this will help out with.
Are
Chris: these like the luckiest school kids on the planet. I mean, they have the support of LeBron, which, you know, he’s got tons of money and he brings lots of attention there. Now they’re getting a million bucks because he had a big in the red with the Drake. This is, wouldn’t it be great. If all public schools have this kind of private financial.
Laura: Yeah, absolutely. And these kids definitely are lucky for getting into this school, but when they chose the kids to go to the school, they chose from the bottom of the performers in the Akron public school system, the kids who were really needed the most help. So if you were like just going along, fine, getting okay, grades, learning how to read and do math, you weren’t going to get into school.
So these are the kids who need the most help. And the LeBron James family foundation provided the $2 million in original funding. It’s actually in this. It used to be a healthcare center. I believe it’s ripe on, um, near Merman road in Akron, near McDonald’s. And it was SwingSpace [00:11:00] for a lot of the Akron public schools and they have this grand staircase with all these sneakers on either side, it looks like a very cool place to go to school and they took over the old Tangier entertaining center and they’re making that into a family.
Support center called, uh, I think it’s home. How’s three 30, which three, three hours, the zip or area code in Akron. And that’s going to have all sorts of other health stuff for kids after.
Chris: The Drake is going to show up at some point to present the check. So you’ve got to think LeBron will be there to celebrate that.
So these kids are going to have a school assembly, like you never see is, and hopefully
Laura: with a musical performance. Yeah. I feel like, I feel like this is a, it’ll be a really big deal.
Chris: It’s a, it’s a big moment for the, I promise school and the salute to LeBron and Drake for pursuing it. You’re listening to today in Ohio.
With the Omnichron B variant spreading rapidly in the United States has the federal and Ohio government run out of money for [00:12:00] coronavirus testing, Layla. It seems like a broken record. We, we, we get ready. We, we try and deal with the pandemic then. Is it a Bates? We drop everything and walk away. Are we really not ready again for this surge?
Yeah.
Leila: I don’t think we are. I mean, and if you look around, I think people have given up anyway, but yes, the federal government certainly is running out of money. Joe Biden said this week that we’re running out of money for COVID testing for treatment for vaccines, and Congress has failed to appropriate more with Democrats and Republicans at an impasse in negotiating that portion of a larger $1.5 trillion spending bill Laura Hancock tells us that.
So. As far as COVID funding goes of the $1.9 trillion from last year’s American rescue plan, just $300 billion remains, but 240 billion is already earmarked for cities and states. And 60 billion is for FEMA emergencies. So we really do need this carve out [00:13:00] from the 2022 spending bill for COVID testing and vaccines.
In Ohio. It’s really unclear how people who are uninsured are going to be effected by the dwindling funds. If this doesn’t get resolved during a COVID update, Thursday, Ohio department of health director, Dr. Bruce Vanderhoff said he’s, he’s keeping hope alive that the proposal, the fund COVID 19 prevention and treatment.
Isn’t dead. People are working behind the scenes to get that money. He said, he told people, go get the test. If you need it, get the therapy. If you need it, get a vaccine. If you need it. And don’t sweat the funding. But that, to that I say. Yeah, but the funding
Lisa: so
Chris: well, th the, the problem with these variants and Ohio knows this well is they, they strike regionally.
Ohio was especially Northern Ohio was one of the first to get battered by Omnichron a, we were slammed by it in December and January, so much so that all the emergency testing centers opened again and had the lines that were. I remember people couldn’t [00:14:00] even get there in the same day. It was so bad. So, but the rest of the country didn’t see that.
So is that, is that what will happen? We’ll have regional needs and there’ll be panic and, and trying to find money quickly to set up these tests.
Leila: Yeah. You know, I think what the pandemic has taught me is that. We are like goldfish in a fishbowl that we just, you know, when the, when we forget immediately how the crisis strikes us.
And as soon as it passes, it’s like, you know, we’re just bubbling around and everything’s back to normal and, you know, we’re swimming through the castle and, uh, then the crisis strikes and we’re not ready again. And, um, you know, so I think that’s what it’s going to be. Uh, you know, I, last night I was actually out and, um, yeah, we’re in green zone.
That’s cool. But I’m a crumby is circulating in Europe. It’s, it’s, it’s not detected in high levels here yet, but it is common and everyone is just packed into [00:15:00] these, you know, it’s just, I don’t know.
Chris: No, actually it’s spreading rapidly in the United States. Now they’re finding it much, much more than they were even a week ago.
What surprises me? Yeah. For decades, we were told a pandemic is coming and nobody listened to, we were prepared, but for the past two years we’ve lived it. We know what it means. And so it’s no longer this, you know, vague thing that’s in the sky. It’s like, this is real and it keeps coming back. How could we not be.
Because the
Leila: second, the surge passes, everyone’s like, we’re free. It’s over. And then they just go back to, and nobody takes any precaution or thinks about all right, what did we learn here? How do we prepare for the next one? What do we need to do? No one thinks about it.
Laura: Also fourth booster people let let’s avoid a surge by getting out more
Chris: boosters.
Alright, bubbling, goldfish. That’s the image of the day for me listening to today in Ohio, how has Senator Rob Portman of Ohio [00:16:00] raising the alarm about the spread of cryptocurrency and ransomware? And Elisa. The cryptocurrency thing to me just, just hits me as a gigantic Ponzi scheme because cryptocurrency, unlike real currency has no real value.
And, and the only way you make money on it is by getting suckers to buy into it. So yours goes up if more and more people buy into it, make it more expensive. And eventually we know how that is. But there’s a real serious danger of having this very difficult to trace kind of digital currency. And that’s what Portman is talking
Lisa: about.
Right. And he’s also talking about ransomware as well. Portman is the ranking Republican on the Senate committee on Homeland security and government affairs. And he issued a report and he’s urging quick implementation by the Biden administration of the recently. Cyber incident reporting act this aids in information sharing to enhance government cyber defenses and their investigative efforts.
And it [00:17:00] also provides proactive steps to secure networks against attacks and all cyber attacks, and must be reported to the Homeland security, cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency. So they can begin tracking all this, but they did have a lot of. Recommendations to companies and organizations both large and small, they said you should really be doing multi-factor authentication.
You should have complex password requirements. You should maintain your inventories to the last device of your software and hardware stuff, offline data backups, and then have an incident response plan. So, you know, and crypto does kind of play into ransomware because a lot of these ransom attacks are asking for cryptocurrency as payment.
Chris: ‘cause you can’t trace it because they, they get it and they walk away with it. And it’s impossible to find them. It’s really enabled a lot of bad actors to be able to, to trade value unseen on track. I mean, normally if [00:18:00] I trashed your computer and I want you to give me money, you’ve got to send it somewhere that conceivably I could trays.
But with cryptocurrency, I cannot so interesting that Rob Portman is in the middle of that.
Leila: I mean for a long time, everyone was like, oh, crypto currency. And if you don’t understand what it is, you just. Who is not in the
Chris: it’s a Ponzi there’s no, there is no value here. It’s just, you know, when, when Matt Damon is on a Superbowl commercial saying fortune favors, the brave, he’s trying to get suckers to buy in so that he can cash out.
This is the definition of a Ponzi scheme, and it’s amazing that it’s been given. And permit tour of real investing and, and people keep getting tempted to get in.
Leila: And the impossibility of tracing it. I just, I feel like, okay, I don’t know anything about it. The second I heard it, I’m like, this is a scam. Why is everyone buying into this?
And, uh, you know, everyone just makes you feel like, you know, Elon Musk [00:19:00] making you feel like you’re an idiot because you’re not a part of it. And, uh, you know, you don’t understand that. So, you know, I guess you’re an outsider. This was so predictable and you know, anyone who gets had buy it deserves.
Chris: We’re going to hear from some people who completely disagree with this,
Leila: bring it, bring it, cause this, this is, this is, so this was so predicted.
Chris: Yeah, I’m completely with you. It’s a scam you’re listening to today in Ohio. How much additional support is Cleveland giving to the program that supplies free lawyers to people facing eviction, Lara. This is something that Kevin Kelly helped get done working with the United way and legal aid, giving people facing eviction, the right to counsel something it’s very.
As we’ve all talked about shelter, Cleveland council is stepping it up again. Yeah.
Laura: They’re going to add an additional $200,000 into this program that makes a total of $500,000 for the year. And the rest of the money does come from legal aid and United way. It spent [00:20:00] $2.7 million on this program last year, but it’s really making a huge difference.
When they started in mid 2020, about 18% of renters in pending eviction cases against them. Sorry, 18%. Now it was 2% before the program started. So think about that. They’re getting representation in a case where they’re trying, you know, people are trying to kick them out of their homes. And so it’s huge.
It, it kept people in their homes. It kept kids in school and they didn’t need other social services because they were able to keep living in their.
Chris: Yeah, I would love it. It’ll take a while because it hasn’t been around that long, but I would love in five years to be able to go back and look at what the savings was to the public for this program, because of all the social services that were not necessary because we kept people in their homes and what it means to the kids that don’t have to change schools and have their education torn apart
Laura: again.
So far, they’re saying 4.3 to $4.7 [00:21:00] million in. Just last year and that’s a combination of savings and other benefits, but I mean, that’s a lot of money. Yeah.
Chris: I think it’s too early for them to say that. And these guys always make these claims
Laura: because we like direct and indirect benefits
Chris: indirect. You really want to get some academic rigor to what the real savings are.
And again, you need some time to pass because it’s long-term costs, not short term costs. It’s today in Ohio. The experts believe the hot housing market will cool off in the coming mountains or will the prices keep rising wave? As some people have suggested that the housing market’s a bubble, but a lot say, no, it’s not.
It’s the result of the work from home movement and a bunch of other factors. Housing is hot. Yes.
Leila: Eric hazard reports that as we enter the busiest season of the year for buying and selling homes, real estate prices are just continuing to suffer. Increases in interest rates after the record lows seen earlier during the coronavirus pandemic have not stopped average [00:22:00] sale prices from increasing in all seven greater Cleveland counties and throughout the state for that matter, rather a lack of homes for sale, as well as a lack of new home construction are fueling a really frustrating market.
That’s filled with anxiety for buyers, many of whom really just want. More space after being all cooped up with their families during the pandemic, they want to just spread out a little bit and they’re looking for their forever home and you know, all the upgrades. So realtors are telling Eric that there are tons of buyers out there and just not enough inventory to keep up.
So that basic supply and demand equation is driving prices through the roof. We’re even to the point where sale prices during the normally off. Of the year have higher prices than in the past spring and summer months when the most sales activity takes place in Cayuga county. For example, the average sale price in February, 2020 was $177,516.
Last month. It was 213,795. [00:23:00] That’s pretty dramatic. Homeowners are getting unsolicited offers from buyers that basically say name your price, and they’re willing to sweeten the deal by agreeing to forgo inspections or to pay fees associated with the sale. It’s it’s insanity. And, and, you know, so for anyone listening out there, you can have my house for $8.5 million.
I’ll pack my bags today.
Chris: I do think it’s interesting that you mentioned people are looking for more space to expand because of the pandemic. And two of the people on this podcast are doing just that right now.
Leila: I’m not getting any square footage. I’m just making it nicer. I
Laura: am getting a second full bathroom, which is going to be very exciting, but.
But you’re right. I mean, I’ve had, I have family members that have, you know, they keep saying, oh, it’s just too expensive and they keep waiting and it’s like, okay. It’s like, you’re waiting. It keeps growing. I just don’t see an end to, to
Chris: this. Laura has Eric story [00:24:00] published that I dug it out of the system.
It is published. Okay. So check it out on cleveland.com. You’re listening to today in Ohio. What killed 15 Canada geese surround the lower lake in shaker Heights. And should we be worried at Lisa? I’m not sure. I’ve worried about Canada geese. Cause they’re like rats running all over the place, but what does this mean for the rest of birds?
Well,
Lisa: It’s concerning to me because there are things going on elsewhere, but they did find these 15 Canada geese on the lower lake and shaker Heights, Cuyahoga county, wildlife officers, Zach Hillman says avian flu is suspected, but not yet confirmed. They sent a couple of the, uh, Carcasses for a necropsy.
And, but he says there’s nothing in the air or the earth. So there were no toxins that probably caused these deaths. And avian flu does spread through bird populations, wild and domestic. It kind of happens every now and then kind of like human flu. It’s not curable or treatable, but the concerning thing [00:25:00] is, is that as I did some research.
Uh, big outbreaks in commercial and backyard chicken farms in Wisconsin, Maine, Nebraska, Texas, Iowa, other states, and upwards of, you know, a million chickens have had to be slaughtered already. So avian flu is out there.
Chris: Yeah, that’s what’s concerning is w the geese have proliferated in greater Cleveland.
They’re everywhere. And his little points out when they walked in front of your car, they know what they’re doing, but they know
Leila: I’m sure these guys just ate too many French fries from the parking lot, where they loiter all day.
Laura: I don’t like it. The parking lot doesn’t bother me. It’s when they stand on the beach, like you cannot come in here and you’re like, no, no.
Like I wanted to walk.
Chris: A few fewer geese, not a problem, but when we start effecting the rest of the bird population, it becomes problematic. I mean, we have Eagles all through here and if the Eagles started to feast on some of these areas, maybe they’d get them. And that would be bad. [00:26:00] Yeah. Okay. No is sending to today in Ohio, we’re going to end on a fun one.
What were the questions people had to answer in the 19. 50 census for which all records are being released on April 1st, Laura, every 10 years, we get this big batch of data from a very old 70 year old census genealogists treasure. It I’ve gone through it every time it’s come out. It’s great fun. This is the first one that we’ll have a bunch of celebrities and well-known people like Bruce Springsteen and Donald Trump, but, but every census has somewhat different set of questions.
What are we going to learn when we see this data? Yeah.
Laura: There’s everybody had to answer at least 20 questions. Some people had to answer up to 38 and obviously you had to put your household address. Then they asked as the household on a farm or a ranch. Is it on a place of three or more acres you had to have your name, your relationship to the head of household.
Uh, your race in 1950 Hispanic people were reported as white sex age on the last birthday [00:27:00] naturalization. Foreign born. And then people who are 14 and older had employment status industry in which the person is employed in the class of worker as if there’s a private government or owner of a business.
And then sometimes they want to know where your parents were born. How much school you attended and the length of your residency in high school. Sorry. .
Chris: And it’s released to the public and all the genealogical sites make it accessible. And you can go and look at the actual forms that your parents, your grandparents filled out.
Uh, this also always seems to reveal some things to families that were not necessarily known. Like there might be somebody living in the household at the time that no one was aware of and raises questions.
Laura: That’s why they keep it hidden for 72 years. Cause the idea was like that. People are going to be living, right.
So you wouldn’t have to be, uh, your privacy would not be invade invaded by this, but, and to get to some of those [00:28:00] celebrities, you’re going to have to know who their parents were like, you can’t just Google Bruce Springsteen census and get the form. I mean, And put up a story with his form, right. And because it’s all public information, but you couldn’t assert the sentence for that.
Um, but it will. And in 1940 it was hand written, I don’t know, 1950s handwritten. They have to have, you know, special, um, software that is going to let you search all of that. And so we’re not sure exactly how easy it would be to find, but this is the biggest Cleveland ever was in 1950 and the census 914,800.
Citizens at the time and actually have the top 10 cities in the country in 1950. Only two of them have grown since which I found really useful.
Chris: Well, and it will be searchable eventually. Cause the genealogical sites, ancestry and all those, they, they put it in there so that you can search it. Cause they make a lot of money from subscribers looking at it.
So it’s not right away. They’ve got to do the indexing and checking, but it does come and you’re right for [00:29:00] Cleveland. This is going to be a fascinating look back in time and, and see where, where
Laura: people are. We’re at what? Like three 20, I’m just going off the top of my head of people in Cleveland 320,000.
I mean, that would be three times the size that we are now.
Chris: Yeah. It’s always fun to go through this and because they ask slightly different questions, you can all. Learn a few things. I mean, we’ll all, I’m sure it’d be looking up our parents and our grandparents and all that kind of stuff. Good stuff.
Check it out. It’s April 1st, next week. You’re listening to today in Ohio, that wraps up the week of episodes for this podcast. Thank you for listening. Thank you, Lisa. And thank you, Laura. Thank you, Layla. We’ll all be back again on Monday.
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